Friday, October 17, 2008

Chapters 10-11 Jem and Mrs. Dubose

What did Jem do when Mrs. Dubose said Atticus "lawed for niggers?" What was Jem's punishment? What did Jem learn from his encounter with Mrs. Dubose and following her death?

9 comments:

yasmin F. said...

Jem got so angry at Mrs. Dubose for saying that Atticus lawed for niggers, that he decided to cut all the tops of her flowers. He also broke his little sister Scout's batton and left it on Mrs. Dubbose's lawn. His punnishment, was that he had to go over to Mrs.Dubbose's house everyday and read to her, until the timer rang. Jem learnt, that Mrs. Dubbose didnt mean most things that she had said. She simply said them because she was old, had a different way of looking at life and she was a morphine addict.

Aub said...

(Note: I thought I had posted this a long time ago, sorry for the delay)

Right about when Scout became a second grader, she began to go to downtown Maycomb to buy things. I assume that she was granted more pocket money as she grew older because she could use it a bit more responsibly now. Unfortunately for Scout and Jem, this meant that they had to pass by Mrs. Dubose's house if they wanted to make to town and back in a timely manner.

Ms. Dubose was a very sadistic, racist woman who didn't seem capable of being wrong.

"Don't say hey to me, you ugly girl! You say good afternoon, Mrs. Dubose!" (99)
"Countless evening Atticus would find Jem furious at something Mrs. Dubose had said..." (100)
"Don't contradict me!... You'll grow up waiting on tables..." (101)

With insults and all flying out of Mrs. Dubose's mouth like spit, one in particular seemed to catch Jem's attention.

"Not only a finch waiting on tables but one in the courthouse lawing for [n-word]s!"
"Jem stiffened. Mrs. Dubose's shot had gone home, and she knew it[.]" (101)

Jem proceeded rip out flowers from her garden, break Scout's baton, yank Scouts hair, and push Scout down. These actions did not do any good. Jem ended up having to read to Mrs. Dubose for several hours every day for over a month. Atticus forced Jem to comply. We found out later that "I'd have made you go read to her [anyways]." (112) regardless wether or not Jem had been to destructive.

Mrs. Dubose was a very sick lady and was on a lot of pain killers. I don't really agree with Yasmin about what Jem learned, or at least what Atticus wanted him to learn. Atticus wanted Jem to realize that courage does not come from a person's gun, "it's when you're licked before you begin, but you begin anyways..." (112)

By this he meant that Mrs. Dubose knew death was just looming over the corner, and that even if she knew it was coming, "she was going to leave this world beholden to nothing and nobody." (111) Mrs. Dubose did not want to die a woman having to live up to or being dependent on someone else. She used Jem's readings as a distraction for the pain (she was trying to die off of pain killers).

I don't think she did not necessarily mean all the things she said, but she did want to get them out in the open without shaming herself.

Maria S. said...

Because Mrs. Dubose said that Atticus "lawed for niggers", Jem cut the camelias. He also broke Scout's toy. He was later caught by Atticus, and sent him to apologize to Mrs. Dubose. He said that she was a sick lady, and she couldn't support such things. In the end, Jem had to read to her for a whole month.
After Mrs. Dubose died, Jem learned much more about bravery. He learned that bravery wasn't a man with money or a gun, but a man that tries to win even though he knows he can't.

Anonymous said...

Jem and Mrs. Dubose weren't the greatest people to have them together. After Mrs. Dubose calling Atticus a "nigger lover" it made Jem furious. She would always tell on Jem and Scout. But later for Jem to find out, Mrs. Dubose was only like this because she was "sick". Later when Mrs. Dubose died, Jem learned more about her. She was very courageous and hard working. Atticus explained this very clearly to Jem.

Anonymous said...

Jem was so mad at Mrs. Dubose that he forgot what Atticus had told him a couple of days before. Atticus had shown Jem what to do when Mrs. Dubose talked to you (which most of the time were insults9 you held your head high, sayed kind and respective things and continued without feeling offended or at least pretend not to feel offended. He got really mad and when, one day, Mrs. Dubose wasn't on her front porch, he ripped out each and every top of her flower. He then took the new batton that he had bought for her and broke it right in half. he left it laying on the grass in Mrs. Dubose garden. Scout, in turn, started crying and shouting. Jem, very furious and filled with rage, pulled her hair so that she would quiet down and because he had to get rid of the anger in some way.
When they came home, Scout said nothing about the incident and they waited for their father. He came home very mad looking and told Jem to apologize, which he did. When Jem came home, he said, sounding confused, that Mrs. Dubose insisted on him to read for her. That was his punishment. He learned that Mrs. Dubose had her alarm clock set and, after it rang, he was free to spend his afternoon any way he wanted. But the time got longer after a while until, one afternoon, he read almost two hours. Sometimes the alarm didn't ring at all but they would be set free anyways.
When Atticus returned from Mrs. Dubose house one day, he told Jem and Scout that she had died. He told them that the doctors had made her take morphine and, over the years, she had become addicted to it. Atticus explained to them that Mrs. Dubose said those thinks because she was old and grew up in a different enviornment. This caused her to look at life and other things a bit differently. She also was a morphine addict, which I mentioned before, and this also changed her view of things in many ways.

Unknown said...

Jem lost it and took Scout's baton and started hitting Ms. Dubose's flowers. His punishment was that he had to read for her for about two hours for a whole month. The thing about that was that Ms. Dubose miss counted so Jem and Scout had to go there to read to her extra weeks.
After Ms. Dubose died Jem realized that the woman was sick. Jem learned that even though people can be mean, they are still people and should be respected.

andy said...

Jem was absolutely furious when Mrs. Dubose said this to Atticus. He decided to cut all the flowers in the her garden to get even with her. One would call it "an eye for an eye". He was caught and did not feel even a little sorry for what he had done. As a punishment, he had to come to her house for a couple of weeks and read a couple of pages from a book to her. This did not seem much of a punishment for me or him. After she died, he learned something that would last in him for the rest of his life. He learned that real bravery doesn't come from shooting a gun. It comes from doing things that you must do and you don't want to do them. Not the things that you want to do.

sora cho said...

Jem was angry when Mrs. Dubose had insulted Atticus, since he respected his father a lot. He took Scout's new baton and started hitting the flowers of her. His punishment was to read to her for one month, since she could not read. He did this all the days for 1-2 hours. When she had died, he noticed how brave the woman was, even though most people did not like her. He learned that even if people might not like you, that person can have great characteristics that are hidden in oneself, and maybe that same person does not know how good it can be. He learned that good things can come out of bad things. At the end, when Mrs. Dubose had sent him a white flower from the mountains, Jem realizes that she did care for him in a strange way and that he should know how to control himself.

yellowtyson said...

It angered Jem that Mrs. Dubose said that Atticus lawed for niggers. Jem ruined Mrs. Dubose's camellias by cutting the tops. Atticus figured out what he had done and sent him to apologize. As a punishment he had to go to her house everyday and read some pages of a book. After her death, he realized that she was sick. Although people can be cruel and seem horrible, they should be respected because after all, they are people too.